Reality shows are well known for being unrealistic, which is both their appeal and their grand irony.

Makeover shows (especially home makeover shows) are especially notorious for this.

The key, it seems, is to not get confused about what Kondo advocates for.

Marie Kondo with short bangs and sparky stud earrings smiles

“It’s never about that.

The house gets messy all the time, but everything is organized and has a place.”

“[Our clutter] was adding this whole layer of stress to our days.”

Clean, folded laundry being put away in storage boxes

She said but added that she feels like the house has lost “10,000 pounds.”

But again, it’s apparently not about deprivation since she clarifies, “I still have 149 jackets.

Kondo is fine with that as long as each one sparks joy.”

Though the release date is TBD,Bustlesays to expect the drop this summer.